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Y se nos viene un nuevo libro, nada que no sepamos pero esto mismo lo adelanta «The Times», una buena disección y desconocía que La Reina misma dijo en el entierro del Duque:
—Qué suerte que Meghan no vino.

Que no los engañe la fecha, es un racconto reciente.

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Meghan, Prince Harry and the war between the royal family
Link: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/megh ... -c077fcfd7

On April 9, 2021, Prince Philip had died. His funeral was set for April 17. Harry arrived in London just before the service. The mood was sombre. Daily, the media extolled Philip’s remarkable life and devotion to the country. The duke had planned a simple funeral at St George’s Chapel, Windsor. The rehearsals displayed faultless military drill. Few would not be touched by the perfection of British ceremonial tradition. The weather was forecast to be perfect. The only uncertainty was the relationship between Harry and his family. How would he cope with his father and brother? Meghan had cited her seven months’ pregnancy as the reason for not travelling.  

In Windsor Castle the Queen was preparing to face the public on one of the saddest days of her life. Philip had been her rock for the previous 70 years. To comply with Covid restrictions she would grieve alone inside the chapel. “Thank goodness Meghan is not coming,” the monarch said in a clear voice to her trusted aides. Buckingham Palace declined to comment last night. Harry’s presence remained a problem. As a private citizen stripped of his military titles he could not dress in uniform. To minimise the embarrassment for both Harry and Andrew, who was mired in allegations of sexual sleaze, all the male members of the royal family dressed in morning suits. To avoid any problems with William, the brothers were separated as they walked towards St George’s Chapel by their cousin Peter Phillips.

During that short procession many watched whether Harry signalled any regret towards his family. Some interpreted his sideways glance towards William as the outsider’s unease. No one grasped the truth about Harry’s nervousness. In four weeks’ time his Apple TV seriesabout mental health would be broadcast. Transmission had been delayed until after the funeral.

Looking at his family standing in St George’s Chapel, Harry must have known that his damnation of them in the Apple TV series would widen the rift. Sitting alone and isolated, the 94-year-old monarch’s grief was concealed behind a black mask. Everyone was moved by her dignity. William looked tense, Kate serene, Charles visibly anguished. Only Harry’s expression defied accurate reporting. Flapping his order of service against his thighs as he left the chapel, he was clearly impatient. None knew that Harry, the once adored young prince, had betrayed his whole family.

After the service, eager for signs of reconciliation, the media seized on Kate’s manoeuvre to engineer a conversation between the brothers. Cameras followed them as they walked up the hill towards the castle. Late rreports of the aftermath veered between a two-hour conversation between Harry, William and Charles, and aperfunctory exchange before everyone departed. Few realised that Harry wanted to return to California as fast as possible. The three princes spoke briefly before Charles drove to his cottage in the Brecon Beacons in Wales. William was handed the burden of rescuing the monarchy from the damage caused by his brother and his uncle Andrew. 

Buckingham Palace finally understood very precisely onMay 14 that the Sussexes were beyond control. Apple TV released Harry’s broadside, called The Me You Can’t See. In it Harry denounced William, whom he had previously praised as the only person he “could trust”, and dishonoured Charles, whom he had previously thanked forbeing so “kind”, for causing a cycle of “genetic pain”. He had even criticised the Queen, despite saying she was“hugely admired”. All were cast as villains responsible forhis “cycles of suffering” and “unresolved anger”. 

Comparing his life to “a mixture between The TrumanShow and being in a zoo”, he said of his family: “I’ve seen behind the curtain. I’ve seen the business model. I know how this operation runs . . . I don’t want to be part of this.” Instead of being reconciled with his family, he had in effect monetised his anguish. 

Ramping up his earlier accusations aired in the Oprah Winfrey interview, Harry described how he and Meghan felt “bullied into silence . . . I thought my family would help, but every single ask, request, warning, whatever it is, justgot met with total silence, total neglect. We spent four years trying to make it work. We did everything we possibly could to stay there and carry on doing the role and doing the job. Meghan was struggling.” Even while they negotiated their departure — “hunted and helpless”in London — there were “forces working against us”. Who rebuffed Harry’s pleas remained unidentified. 

The Palace struggled to understand why Harry should publicly criticise the Queen and his dead grandfather for their upbringing of Charles. America’s men were grippedby Harry’s advocacy of therapy. He was credited with removing the stigma of admitting to anxiety and depression. 

The gulf between the Windsors and Harry was widening. Five days earlier, Harry had nailed his colours to political campaigning. At Vax Live, a Los Angeles charity concert, Harry told an audience that Pfizer and other pioneers of Covid vaccines should abandon their intellectual propertyrights and let poorer countries have their patents free. President Biden supported that gesture, but it was opposed by Britain and the EU. Harry’s participation would have been impossible as a member of the royal family. As would Meghan’s two-minute video. She weighed in by asserting that women of colour had beendisproportionately affected by Covid. Women’s progress, said Meghan, had been “wiped out” for a generation. 

Powerless over events in California, Charles had good reason on his accession to strip the Sussexes and their children of their titles. The Sussexes’ status depended substantially on their royal titles. Every appearance or statement was issued under the label “The Duke and Duchess of Sussex”. Neither considered it odd to honour the Queen yet damn her as a bad parent to Charles, or label her family as racist and neglectful of Meghan. 

In America, no one would be aware of those contradictions. But Harry could not assume that Charles would tolerate the enmity without retribution. In the possibly brief time before the Queen died, Harry needed to cement his status. 
The Sussexes organised a Lilibet website before their daughter was born. Lilibet was the name used by George V, the Queen’s grandfather, as he imitated his young granddaughter’s attempts to say her own name. After his death in 1936 the name stuck, but was only used by the closest members of the Queen’s family. 

Harry’s daughter was born at Santa Barbara’s Cottage Hospital on June 4. On the same day, but two days before the birth was announced, Meghan’s lawyers registered the lilibetdiana.com website. After the birth, but before the public announcement, Harry called the Queen. He told his grandmother about the birth and their decision to call their daughter Lilibet. 

To stymie the Sussexes, the Palace told the BBC that the Queen was “never asked” for permission for the use of her name. In his telephone call, Harry was “telling” the Queen about the name. 

Once the BBC broadcast that report, the Sussexes’ PRmachine was activated. Meghan’s spokeswoman claimed that Harry would not have chosen the name if the Queen had not been “supportive”. Fired up by the Sussexes’ anger, their lawyers Schillings announced that unless the BBC apologised and withdrew that report, the Sussexe swould sue for defamation. Seemingly pitching Harry against the Queen, the Palace supported the BBC. The Sussexes retreated. Schillings’ threat evaporated. The Sussexes were defeated. 

Legal wrangles in London could be easily forgotten inCalifornia. Only when the whole royal family descended onthe G7 summit hosted by the prime minister in Cornwallon June 12, and Kate was filmed laughing with Jill Biden, could Meghan see the unequal struggle for attention. For the British, the sight of William, Charles and the Queen walking through a garden, and alongside the world’sleaders, represented the monarchy’s enduring strength,a nd William and Kate represented its future. The Windsors felt reassured by the international accolades. Their future public appearances were carefully scheduled and insertedon to a grid, building up to a climax later that year in NewYork. Their own royal event was planned to consolidate their status in America. 

In their timetable, the unveiling of a bronze memorial to Diana in Kensington Palace’s Sunken Garden on what would have been her 60th birthday became a sideshow. In the bitterness sparked by the Sussexes, only the Spencer family were present alongside the brothers. Everyone else, including Diana’s grandchildren, stayed away. Meghan’ s absence passed without comment, except in those parts of America where Diana was revered. Standing in front of an uninspiring depiction of Diana, William and Harry defied speculation. The ceremony would not trigger a reconciliation. William’s reluctance to attend was well known. 

Any doubts about Harry’s strength of feeling were dispelled by his stony silence after the Queen announcedon Accession Day 2022 that Camilla would be Britain’s next queen. Seventeen years after their controversial marriage, Charles had persuaded his mother and a majority of Britons that Camilla should be crowned during his own coronation. Charles may have had good reason to fear that Harry’s dislike of Camilla had been re-energised by Meghan.
 
Most Britons could not understand Harry’s seeming hostility towards his country and family. What many saw as his disloyalty to his grandmother was particularly mystifying. Occasionally, he appeared willing to betray every value he formerly held dear. 

Yet visibly retaining their relationship with the Queen was critically important for the Sussexes’ status. By March 2022 the ailing 95-year-old monarch had repeatedly cancelled public engagements. The exception was her appearance at Prince Philip’s memorial service. To the royal family’s misfortune, the event was overshadowed by Andrew’s bold appearance centre stage, escorting hismother to her seat in Westminster Abbey. Defiantly ignoring his banishment from public duties, Andrew also indicated that he expected to appear in the spotlightduring the Queen’s jubilee celebrations in June. 

Keeping Andrew out of sight was one problem. Another was Harry and Meghan’s demand also to appear with the Queen on Buckingham Palace’s balcony. If the three outcasts did successfully appear in the spotlight, the media’s focus would no longer be the Queen’s achievements over 70 years, but on her dysfunctional sonand grandson. Inevitably, the public reaction would be unenthusiastic. 
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The obstacles for Meghan and Harry to appear centrestage were considerable — not least because their presence was opposed by Charles. Charles preferred tha tthe Sussexes, as private citizens, were not invited on to the balcony or to ride in a royal carriage. Instead, they would be confined to the VIP enclosures. In Meghan’s view those optics were unsatisfactory, partly because her value to Netflix was to stand near the Queen. 

To achieve this goal Harry asked the Queen’s resistant advisers. When this failed he asked the Queen if he could visit her in Windsor on his way to the Netherlands for the Invictus Games. To secure her agreement, Harry appeared to give the impression that the meeting would offer an “olive branch” to “clear the air”. At the last moment, keen to see her grandson and instinctively forgiving of Meghan,the Queen agreed to meet the couple on April 14. William avoided the problem with a previous arrangement to skiwith his family in France. 

After spending the night with his cousin Eugenie, Harry and Meghan were driven to Windsor Castle. On the Queen’s insistence they met Charles and Camilla before her. The Sussexes arrived late. Their first encounter was civilised but failed to resolve the fraught relations created by their Oprah Winfrey interview. By contrast, there was no tension drinking tea with the Queen. Yet the issue oftheir appearance on the balcony remained unresolved.The danger of allowing the meeting surfaced six dayslater. 

Followed by Netflix cameras, the Sussexes proved themselves modern and compassionate as they faultlessly mixed in The Hague with the athletes. Always smiling and dressed in an unending change of expensive clothes while watching the events, Meghan played the stunning hostess and pledged to offer “service” to the world. But, as later events seemed to show, festering was their fury that the Palace had refused all of their demands for a prominent role at the jubilee in return for returning to Britain withtheir children. 

Harry could not resist venting his anger to an American NBC TV reporter. His “special” relationship with the Queen, he told the world, meant that the Queen confided in him secrets unknown to others of her family. 

Her four children and seven other grandchildren, he implied, were excluded from her confidence. More inflammatory, he declared his duty was to make sure that his grandmother was “protected and got the right people around her”. Charles, Anne, William and all the Queen’s staff, implied Harry, were inadequate for the task. He appeared to speak from the heart. It seemed Harry had resumed the war against his family. The “olive branch”media headline about his visit to Windsor splintered. 

Predictably, Harry’s assertion of his special status aroused accusations about his “breathtaking arrogance” with “nobounds to his self-delusion”. Responding to the publicfury, Downing Street even issued a statement that the Queen was well-protected. 

The most striking moment of his TV appearance was his refusal to answer whether he missed his “brother and dad”. Ignoring his family, he perhaps supposed, would be offset among most American viewers by warmly responding to any mention of his mother. Asked about Diana’s “presence” in his life, he replied: “It’s constant. It has been over the past two years, more so than everbefore.” He added: “It’s almost as though she’s done her bit with my brother and now she’s very much helping me. She got him set up, and now she’s helping me set up.” 

Unconvincingly, the multimillionaire implicitly linked his mother to a plea for “a more equal world”. Finally, hevolunteered that America was his “home”. Within those few minutes on television Harry had demonstrated the danger of his appearance at the jubilee celebrations. Everything was about himself and Meghan. 

Merely four years after Harry and Meghan’s wedding the royal family had been transformed from a relatively harmonious group, embracing multiculturalism as part oftheir service to Britain and the Commonwealth, into a beleaguered institution uncertain of its future. To their harshest critics, the Sussexes had become agents ofdestruction. 

© Tom Bower, 2022. Extracted from REVENGE: MEGHAN,HARRY AND THE WAR BETWEEN THE WINDSORS by Tom Bower, to be published by Blink Publishing, on July 21 at £22.

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Había algunos detalles que conocían, son tantos los circos que ya me pierdo :eyes: pero han hecho bien en dejarlos a un lado en el jubileo, y que el público se sirviera de ellos para ubicarlos. No tienen más sitio en GB, y Charles haría muy bien en quitarles los títulos, a ver qué tan bien lleva Meghan el ser la Sra. Winsor-Mountbatten nomás.

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A mí me pareció muy lanzada en su momento, teniendo en cuenta el secretismo con el que se llevaban los noviazgos. La verdad es que ví algunas líneas rojas pero no quise ser la aguafiestas que critica todo, así que le di el beneficio de la duda... que me duró dos meses.

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Que Meghan iba a lo que iba, estaba claro desde el principio, se la veía venir de lejos, estaba encantada de conocerse a sí misma y llevar a Harry de adorno como un chihuahua dentro de un bolso de firma. El servicio a la corona y al país iba por detrás del autoservicio para su carrera, pero eso no tenía por qué ser malo ya que los Cambridge parecían más sosos que un yogur de agua. Esperábamos que este par diese un poco de vidilla a la institución y algún titular jugoso, por qué no. A los ingleses les gusta un toque de excentricidad en sus aristócratas. Pero lo que hicieron fue intentar arrasar con un bulldozer.

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Que Meghan iba a lo que iba, estaba claro desde el principio, se la veía venir de lejos, estaba encantada de conocerse a sí misma y llevar a Harry de adorno como un chihuahua dentro de un bolso de firma. El servicio a la corona y al país iba por detrás del autoservicio para su carrera, pero eso no tenía por qué ser malo ya que los Cambridge parecían más sosos que un yogur de agua. Esperábamos que este par diese un poco de vidilla a la institución y algún titular jugoso, por qué no. A los ingleses les gusta un toque de excentricidad en sus aristócratas. Pero lo que hicieron fue intentar arrasar con un bulldozer.

Todos quisimos ver lo mejor al principio y pasar sobre las obvias señales de alerta, ya la boda nos bajó a la realidad de un hondazo, lo que vino después era simplemente una catarata de confirmaciones. Es triste pero no deja de ser la realidad.

Meghan dudo que quiera destruir a la institución porque todo su negocio está montado en base ser princesa y duquesa, Harry es capaz, que ya sabemos de quién es hijo, ¿no? Por suerte no tiene la cabeza ni el manejo de Diana para estas cosas, le han respondido y ubicado fácil desde BP, y tiene la suerte que agarra a su abuela en la parte final de su vida, hace 10 años no habría tenido la misma paciencia zen.


:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Momento que hay más.

Sunshine feared that Meghan would fire his agency. Puzzled why Buckingham Palace was angry, he called the magazine’s editor to deliver what he imagined to be the ultimate threat. “You’re going to have to deal with the Queen,” he said.

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Por si no lo pueden pagar como yo: https://archive.ph/TLRn7

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Me encanta todo esto, que se destapen las mentiras, que se sepa lo retorcida que es Meghan :twisted:


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El jubileo fue el principio del fin de esta pareja. En esos días quedo en evidencia que mucho de lo que dijeron esta solo en su cabeza.
las empresas y las ONG no desean que asocien su imagen a dos mentirosos.-
Ahora sera todo cuesta abajo. siempre habrá gente que los defienda pero ese protagonismo que desean ya no lo tendrán.


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Me encanta todo esto, que se destapen las mentiras, que se sepa lo retorcida que es Meghan :twisted:

Es todo muy divertido, triste, sí, dañino para la institución también pero no deja de ser gracioso. :XD:

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Estos cuatro extractos del libro explican muchas cosas. Lo que no entiendo es por qué la casa real no les paró los pies pronto, cogió a Meghan y le explicó claramente que lo que ella quería era inviable... antes de la boda.


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Me temo que para no contradecir al mimado del niño, que debe de ser un idiota del quince. Debían estar todos horrorizados. Al final cuando no paras las malas situaciones a tiempo te acaban devorando.

Menuda pieza Meghan y menudo problema que les metió Harry a la familia.

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A mi me la coló pero bien.

No vi venir que tenía tan alto concepto de si misma. Al contrario, pensé que entrar en la Firma le estaba resultando abrumador, pero no. El temita de la tiara y el peluquero ya cantó La Traviata en su momento. Quedó claro que no sabía donde estaba. Y el otro tampoco se lo advirtió.

Ahora vamos con el mundo agentes de Hollywood, el autobombo de las estrellas. Claro quedó también cuando el baby shower. Aquel espectáculo de idas y venidas en un hotel de lujo, con media calle cortada y la prensa apostada. Un show que ni los Jolie-Pitt, que si hacen por el mundo y la filantropía.

Como la gilipollez aquella de nos vamos, nos convertimos en autosuficientes pero seguimos en la Firma, escogiendo nuestros propios actos y la prensa que debe cubrirlos. Ellos, los modernizadores de la monarquía, pagadísimos de si mismos siendo segundones.

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Me temo que para no contradecir al mimado del niño, que debe de ser un idiota del quince. Debían estar todos horrorizados. Al final cuando no paras las malas situaciones a tiempo te acaban devorando.

Menuda pieza Meghan y menudo problema que les metió Harry a la familia.

Nadie lo vio venir, y no teníamos porqué. Lo de BP sí es incomprensible, sabían que Harry se quería casar desesperadamente y podía ser muy fácilmente presa de impresentables, y que había que llevarlo porque por la suya siempre fue un bala perdida. Luego aparece esta actriz clase C de la nada, el noviazgo se conduce sólo puertas adentro y la Reina aceptó la boda sin más. Chelsy y Cressida fueron a eventos, la gente las conocía, más allá de que eran niñas bien del palo aristocráta, pero eran del medio, ésta ni siquiera era inglesa, no sabía nada del país ni cómo adaptarse y aceptaron que hiciera una transición express olvidando lo mal que les fue la última vez que hicieron lo mismo, y sí, hablo de Diana.

Entiendo, sí, que venían de William nomás que la tuvo a Catherine colgada de una percha por muchos años, y que eso le dio tiempo a ella y a su familia de adaptarse a emparentar con la FRB, a Sophie post los desastres de los matrimonios de sus hermanos también se la hicieron larga pero bueno, ya es tarde.

Si tengo que marcar un punto de inflexión en lo que sentía por ellos, al igual que Clara, fue el baby shower. No se entendía qué hacía con toda esa gente que poco menos era la 2da vez que los veía, luego de la boda. Otro brillante momento que no se entendió y me generó un sentimiento de desazón, qué hacían todos esos ahí, Clooney y demás. Y a todo dijeron que sí en BP. Nadie se puede sorprender de lo que esté pasando, aceptaron todo y henos aquí.

Lo malo, y lo vuelvo a decir, es que van a terminar plebeyos, sin siquiera el ducado, Charles se ha hinchado los... bueno, sí, los genitales y William aún mastica odio por todo lo que tuvo que soportar, y que su cuñada aún ande hablando mal de su mujer, justo de ella que siempre cultivó un bajo perfil y no se mete con nadie a pesar de los imposibles ataques de la prensa, a ver, nosotros mismos no la queríamos mucho, los apreciamos más ahora por contraposición a estos 2 impresentables.

Lamentablemente, insisto, son los únicos responsables de todo lo que les espera.

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