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He encontrado un artículo fascinante sobre Lady Pamela y sus recuerdos como dama de compañía de Lilibet en varios de sus viajes, entre otros cuando la pobre se enteró en Africa que su padre había muerto y ella era reina.

Está en inglés, pero merece la pena el esfuerzo.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/features/3633622/Lady-Pamela-Hicks-Looking-after-Lilibet.html

Cuenta por ejemplo que en la boda de Philip y Elizabeth, la reina Juliana iba echando la bronca a las mujeres por llevar las joyas sucias.

De lo que se entera uno. :surprised:

Lady Pammie en foto reciente, estupenda aunque con las manos un poco rojas.

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Mi muy apreciado lord Octavius ya en otro hilo, no recuerdo en cuál, se hace referencia al nacimiento de Pamela Mountbatten en Barcelona, Principado de Catalunya y al nombre de Carmen tan fuera de lo común en su familia... :?


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Por alguna razón no se ve el link de Telegraph (sad)
Me alegro de que le déis vidilla a este hilo, me quedé con las ganas de saber más, jaja.
Creo que sería buen idea hacer un hilo de las hermanas al estilo de las Miltford. ¿Quién se anima...?

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Yo sí veo el artículo, pero os lo pongo aquí.

La autora es Elizabeth Grice y se publicó en el Daily Telegraph en julio de 2007.

Lady Pamela Hicks: Looking after Lilibet

She was at Elizabeth's side at her accession and her marriage. On the Queen's 60th wedding anniversary, Lady Pamela Hicks talks frankly to Elizabeth Grice

They say it's the good girls who keep diaries and the bad girls who never have the time.

Where does that leave Lady Pamela Hicks? She had a ringside seat at some of the momentous events of modern history and although her father, Earl Mountbatten of Burma, bullied her into keeping a journal, when life got really interesting the entries somehow dried up.

Take the autumn of 1947. She and her family were in the ferment of post-partition India, where Lord Mountbatten was last Viceroy.

She'd received a handwritten note from Princess Elizabeth asking her to be a bridesmaid at her wedding to Lt Philip Mountbatten and telling her about the Norman Hartnell dress she'd wear. Philip was her cousin.

The Mountbattens were nervous about leaving India but, deciding that not to go would have drawn attention to the crisis, they flew home for 10 hectic days of partying and preparation.

To Pammy, 18 and a recent escapee from the gloom of a wartime English boarding school, it was beyond thrilling - yet not a word of her impressions reached her journal.

"I went to my diary for '47 and found that those 10 days are a complete blank," says Lady Pamela. "What a comment on my diary-keeping! Life was just too busy and exciting."

Five years later, by now talked up as the most eligible girl in England after Princess Margaret, she had the chance to redeem herself as a royal Boswell.
Pamela Mountbatten was lady-in-waiting to the Princess when she set off for Kenya on the first leg of a tour to Australia and New Zealand.

With Elizabeth, Philip and only three other people, she climbed the ladder to Treetops Hotel, perched in the branches of a giant fig tree and overlooking a salt lick.

While they were there on February 6, 1952, watching elephant and rhino visit the pool at night and taking photographs of the sunrise, everything changed.
"We had a wonderful night seeing all the game," recalls Lady Pamela. "But the King died in the night. So Elizabeth went up that ladder as a princess and came down as Queen - but we had no idea till much later. And guess what's missing from my record? The fig tree!"

Pammy, juggling a typewriter and the Princess's parasol, had dropped the typewriter into shark-infested waters as the royal party was disembarking from the SS Gothic.

Lady Pamela's cheerful account of her lapses is delivered with the brio of someone who knows she's always going to be forgiven.

She's not afraid to admit that her teenage memories of the wedding day are outdazzled by the grand pre-wedding ball given by the King and Queen for 1,200 people - an occasion where a European prince asked for her hand in marriage after only one dance.

She says the biggest let-down of the wedding day was when Prince Baudouin, heir to the Belgian throne, refused to join the bridesmaids at Ciro's nightclub.
"He was the only other young person around. We all thought: 'Tall, dark and a future king.' But he played safe. We thought he was stuffy beyond words for not coming."

David Milford Haven, Philip's socialite cousin and best man, decided on Ciro's because it was harmless, she recalls, and most of his friends wouldn't have been seen dead there. "It was where you were taken to initiate you into night life, not where you were defending your honour."

The day itself, she says, passed in a happy blur, and not just because she's short-sighted. Her impression of the royal couple - both related to her - was of two people caught in a fairytale.

"In those days, my God, he was the fairy prince, handsomer than a fairy prince because he was so masculine. And she, with that marvellous complexion, had absolute star quality. With the golden coach and beautiful horses, it was a kind of vision. It poured with rain but the crowd, in that very British way, ignored it and queued all night to get a place. Standing on the balcony afterwards, seeing the enormous crowd rush up to the gates of the Palace, was an incredible feeling."

She recalls the youngest bridesmaid, Princess Alexandra, 12, running around boisterously while the older ones pretended to be appalled ("There is always the young bridesmaid wrecking the reception, isn't there?").

Princess Margaret, chief bridesmaid, bossed the others around. Queen Juliana of the Netherlands chuntered at how dirty everyone's jewellery was.

Prince Philip was upset that his three German sisters were not invited. "So soon after the war, you couldn't have 'the Hun'. I think Philip understood, but the sisters certainly didn't. For years afterwards, they'd say: 'Why weren't we allowed to come to your wedding?' They weren't exactly stormtroopers."
To mark the day, Prince Philip gave the bridesmaids a silver and rose-gold powder compact that he had designed himself.

"When we compared them, we were very chuffed to see that each one was slightly different but with the initials E and P. Mine has six little sapphires down the middle. I used to have it in my bag all the time but suddenly it's no longer safe when you're going on the bus or Tube or walking the streets."

Lady Pamela is a robust 78 and her fine house in rural south Oxfordshire seems a world away from muggers and pickpockets. However, she was robbed in Sloane Street two years ago - had her wallet "removed", as she puts it - and that has made her cautious. Her husband, the interior designer David Hicks, died nine years ago.

Encouraged by India, their younger daughter, she has just published India Remembered, a breezy account of life in the viceregal palace at the time of the partition. (It was so vast, she observed, that a complete tour of the house took two hours and was best done on a bicycle.)

In the book, she nails the rumour that her mother, Edwina, had an affair with Pandit Nehru. Their immediate attraction "blossomed into love", she says. "Although it was not physical, it was no less binding for that. It would last until death."

If anyone is qualified to understand the strange alchemy, commitment and compromises that have cemented the marriage of the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh for 60 years, it is Pamela Hicks.

She grew up close to them both. Queen Victoria was her great-great-grandmother. (During wartime holidays from boarding school, she was brought up by her elderly paternal grandmother, Princess Victoria of Hesse, Queen Victoria's granddaughter.) Through the marriage of her aunt, Princess Alice, to Prince Andrew of Greece, she is first cousin to Philip and defends him furiously when others fail to understand the frustrations of his role, especially in early married life.

"He is so active and inventive, with such an inquiring mind, and yet at that stage he was allowed to do nothing, absolutely nothing," she says.

"Lilibet was a lovely girl, very pretty, and they were in love, but the horror for him was that she would ultimately be Queen of England. That would put paid to his promising naval career. What would he do for the rest of his life, always two steps behind? I think he thought he was either being very foolish taking this on, or he would have to do it seriously - which is what he has done. The awful thing for them was that they weren't expecting to have to take on the job till they were in their fifties.

"People say he's had affairs. He's a great flirt - what sailor isn't? He's flirted with every girl in every port. But that's all. For God's sake, he's inclined to say: 'How could I, being married to her?' He feels he's wasting his time if everybody believes the worst. He has supported her brilliantly for 60 years. And what is so nice is that people are finally beginning to realise that."

For their resumed grand Commonwealth tour in 1953, Elizabeth again asked Pammy to be her lady-in-waiting. "It was going to be a six-month tour and she said it would be nice to have a giggle occasionally." Lady Pamela wasn't typical lady-in-waiting material but her father had been ADC to the Prince of Wales (later Edward VIII) and her grandfather, Prince Louis of Battenberg, had been ADC to George V, "so it was third generation and seemed rather fun".

She remembers how the young Queen would go alone to women's lunches, still unsure of herself and convinced that Philip, with his film-star looks, was the one they wanted to see. "Her mother was a hard act to follow. In Australia and New Zealand people would come hundreds of miles from sheep and cattle stations to stand by the line as our train roared through. They had waited for hours so she had to be there waving. She could never relax. She used to say: 'Oh, I wish Mummy was here. She would love it and she would do it so well.'

"The Queen is a very private person; a loner. She longs to be in a room with nobody else. The dogs, the horses, her husband… She has few friends and if she had to choose between the dogs, the horses and the friends, there is no doubt which she would choose. She does her job to perfection now but it was agony for her, starting off."

Her father's death and her sudden accession at the age of 25, with Philip only 28, was shocking for them both.

Lady Pamela recalls how "all the world" knew of the King's death hours before the Princess because of communications problems.

A white-faced man from Reuters, stumbling out of a telephone box, was the first to impart the news. It was confirmed when Prince Philip's equerry, Mike Parker, finally managed to tune in to the BBC and picked up the sound of muffled drums.

Parker woke Philip, who was having a siesta. Philip took his wife into the garden of Sagana Lodge, where they were staying, and walked with her slowly up and down the lawn - "up and down, up and down, while he talked and talked and talked", said Parker.

"She was devastated," says Lady Pamela. "But she was also incredible. They asked her what she wanted to be called as Queen. She was astounded by the question and said: 'Elizabeth. That's my name.' It was so typical of her. She showed great control, though I think she may have been in floods once we were on the plane home."

At Entebbe, they were held up in an electric storm and had to wait for two hours in the airport lounge. "We sat making conversation with the terribly shy Governor of Uganda - small talk. I think anything after that was tolerable."
Recently, Lady Pamela disinterred her Norman Hartnell bridesmaid's dress from the cellar.

Sensing its historical importance, she says she was never tempted to have it altered for social occasions but she hadn't enough "housewifely sense" to know how to look after it.

"It looked indescribably grey and awful when I got it out of its cardboard box. India's dress, being satin, came out looking divine [India Hicks was bridesmaid to Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer] but mine, being tulle, was dark grey. It looked like someone's bad dream."

Visitors to Buckingham Palace this summer can judge for themselves. Lady Pamela's bad dream is on show as part of a special exhibition to mark the 60th wedding anniversary of the Queen and Prince Philip.

Among the wedding presents on display is the controversial piece of cloth woven by Mahatma Gandhi and brought back from India by the Mountbattens.
"When I saw this so-called lace, it ruined one of my favourite stories - that Queen Mary was outraged because she thought it was a loincloth. You couldn't think that was a loincloth! You can see straight through it."

She was baffled to see that the Mountbattens' own wedding present wasn't there - until she remembered what they had given the couple: a cinema.

• 'A Royal Wedding: 20 November 1947' is at Buckingham Palace until Sept 25. Tickets from www.royalcollection.org.uk. 'India Remembered' by Lady Pamela Mountbatten and India Hicks (Anova) is available for £23 + £1.25 p&p from Telegraph Books (0870 428 4112; books.telegraph.co.uk).


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Por cierto, el título de este hilo es "David Hicks-Lady Mountbatten". Que me corrija Mara, pero Pamela nunca ha sido Lady Mountbatten, ¿verdad?

Ha sido Lady Pamela Mountbatten de soltera y Lady Pamela Hicks de casada. Para un inglés la diferencia es importante.

En el artículo que acabo de poner también cuenta como Balduino de Bélgica fue a la boda de Lilibet y todas le echaron el ojo por ser "alto, moreno y futuro rey". Cuando le invitaron a salir con ellas a tomar unas copas al local de moda en Londres, Balduino, tan apocadito, rehusó. <o>


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Por cierto, el título de este hilo es "David Hicks-Lady Mountbatten". Que me corrija Mara, pero Pamela nunca ha sido Lady Mountbatten, ¿verdad?


OH! Ni lo había notado. Gran ojo, Octavius. Si. No está correcto. Como yo he mencionado, no es fuera del común qué extranjeros no usan nuestros titúlos britanicos correctamente.

La hija de un peer se llama así: "Lady"; Primer Nombre; Apellido de Familia.

Por ejemplo la hija del Conde de Portsmouth sería Lady Clementine Wallop, no Lady Portsmouth quién fue la mamá. Como Mountbatten es parte del titúlo Y nombre de familia (como los Spencer) entonces se pone brava la cosa para extranjeros.

El hilo tendría qué ser de Lady Pamela Mountbatten.


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Gracias por la aclaración, Lady Marvel Dinastías.

Voy aprovechando los posts para desgranar anécdotas del artículo de Lady Pamela. Cuenta que acompañó a la princesa Lilibet en un tour por África (en 1952) cuando murió Jorge VI.

Elizabeth, Philip y otras tres personas se habían subido en una higuera para contemplar el Hotel Treetops de Kenia (construido entre sus ramas). Como dice Lady Pammie, Lilibet subió princesa de ese árbol y bajó Reina.

Estaba en la higuera cuando se convirtió en Reina, podríamos decir.

Debido a las malas comunicaciones de la época ella no se enteró hasta más tarde que se lo comunicó un periodista de Reuters de la comitiva. Philip se la llevó a un campo cercano y se pasaron varias horas caminando y hablando.

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Gracias Marqués de Savile Row!

Si, ella apareció en unos documentales diciendo la misma cosa (aunque para los qué no conocen la historia, es perfecto el relato!). Ella tambien dijo qué la reina tomó los primeros pornos de elefantes y qué estos ejercicios la fascinaban. ;D

Aquí tenemos a la pequeña Pammie con su mamá. Ella fue muy cruel algúnas veces con la hija por qué no era tan femenina como quisiera. La llamaba "my only son" (mi unico hijo varon).

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My only son! Cruel pero ingenioso...

Aquí vemos a Dickie Mountbatten visitando a su hermana Louise (reina de Suecia) en 1946, con sus hijas Pamela y Patricia.

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Pammie con Gandhi.

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Portada del libro sobre la India que escribió Pamela, en el que cuenta de la pasión -según ella espiritual, pero no física- entre su madre y Nehru. Hay un hilo en este foro donde se habla más específicamente de esta pasión.

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Es decir, que no sólo fue cruel el padre, la madre también, pobre Pammy... yo que la encuentro atractiva, tiene la misma cara de adolescente que de mayor. Incluso diría que mas que su hermana «la buena».

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Pamela Carmen Louise Mountbatten: desde su nacimiento en 1929 hasta el 23.8.1946 fue simplemente miss Pamela Mountbatten, desde el 23.8.1946 hasta el 28.10.1947 fue la honorable Pamela Mountbatten y desde el 28.10.1947 hasta su matrimonio fue Lady Pamela Mountbatten... ;)


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Exacto. Y una vez casada, Lady Pamela Hicks.


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